In a message dated 4/1/2003 7:05:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, jglatt@ptd.net writes: > Sometimes this shadier > site is helpful. Cooler conditions keep slightly tender plants from > premature growth that gets nailed by a frost - Arisaema ringens has > not been slapped back because it sensibly waits to emerge, influenced > by the generally cooler conditions. > Hi Judy: Similar experiences here. A. ringens emerged the first year on Feb. 17th and required protection with a styrofoam rose cone. It seems to have settled in quite nicely (probably pulled itself deeper) and now emerges much later, avoiding the late season frosts. There is a thermometer in our van: just going the several hundred yards from the east side of the river (Housatonic) over the bridge to the west side is a difference of 2-3 degrees. The river has a moderating effect but cold air will descend from the foothills and pool in the river valley. I haven't seen Ellie or Joel for several years now, hope all is well, they are lovely people. Best, Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue