In a message dated 10/5/2002 11:16:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, msittner@mcn.org writes Those of you from colder climates who grow tender things in green houses, when do you start watering? Hi Mary Sue I start watering the winter growers in late August or early September when that first cold front moves through the area. First to bloom this year was Gladiolus carmineus, first to show any growth was Lachenalia violacea for the Cape Bulbs and Calachortus nudus was the first native in growth. First seed to germinate was Cypella amboensis. Best regards, Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue