Doug, Can you tell me anything about the Scadoxus membranaceus, such as when it blooms? Mine were received in 2000 as what I thought were good sized plants. So far none have bloomed. Mine are evergreen, in the same cool greenhouse on the same bench where S. multiflorus katherinae is deciduous for 2 or 3 months each winter. I had my first S. puniceus bloom in that same greenhouse this past spring. The puniceus and the katherinae were all grown from seed. I too would like very much to add S. cinnebarinus and S. pole-evansi to my Scadoxus collection! If any seeds or plants turn up at future UC plant sales, I beg you noble Californians to keep me in mind! Thanks! Jim Shields in hot, steamy central Indiana ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. +1-317-896-3925