Dear Dell (and all) ----- Some comments on the two items from PBX 19 associated with Jim Robinett. # 8 -Jim grew many more T. ixioides scabra than either of the other two forms (vars.?) - so that is the most likely candidate. #9 - Your description of the T. laxa is most like the form that we called "Sierra Giant," with large light lavender and shiny flowers, forming an umbel as large as 10 or 12 inches when mature. It is indeed an early bloomer, 3-4 weeks ahead of any other T. laxa we grew, and indeed forms fewer offsets than some other forms, concentrating its energy on getting bigger, as you say. All Jim's bulbs were open pollinated (unless specifically protected), so chance hybridization is indeed a risk, in both cases. Georgie Robinett